DevOps 018: How We Killed DevOps? with Adam Nowak

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In this episode of Adventures in DevOps the pane interviews Adam Nowak. Adam is a part of the DevOps team at Netguru. He joins the panel today to share his DevOps transformation story. Adam starts by explaining the title he chose for today’s episode. He also shares his definition of DevOps.

Adam explains the age-old story of a misunderstood DevOps team that was overworked and underappreciated. The organization grew but the DevOps team didn’t scale with it, leaving them with piles of tickets and everyone else wondering what was taking so long. The panel commiserates with Adam and shares some of their own similar stories.

Reaching out to others to help solve the problem, Adam found that many DevOps teams had and are experiencing the same problem. He found help from others in the DevOps space and recommended books. His team started by making their work more visible. To do this they streamlined their communication and published documentation.

Next, they made more focused goals. Instead of trying to do everything and never meeting their goals they chose a couple things to work on and focused on that. Another change they made was to diversify their meetings, projects, and initiatives; they brought in people from all the teams to collaborate, making the projects even better.

The panel discusses the importance of empathy in the workplace and in life. Most people are trying their best and probably have a reason for doing the things that they are doing. Instead of treating others as if they are incompetent, talk them and discuss the reasons behind their actions and decisions.


  • Nell Shamrell-Harrington
  • Charles Max Wood


  • Adam Nowak



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How we killed DevOps?

By creating dedicated DevOps teams.

How does Adam Nowak define DevOps?

As a culture of empathy.

How did Adam Nowak transform DevOps at his work place?

Streamlined communication, made the work visible, diversified, refocused goals and practiced empathy.

What does Adam Nowak recommend for those in need of a DevOps transformation?

Reach out to someone who has been there and ask for help.

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