FS 299: Beyond Burnout – How to Work Hard and Enjoy Life with Dr. Sherry Walling



    • Jeremy Green
    • Jonathan Stark
    • Reuven Lerner

    Special Guest: Sherry Walling, Ph.D.

    In this episode of the Freelancer’s Show, the panel discusses: “Beyond Burnout – How to Work Hard and Enjoy Life.” Dr. Sherry Walling is a licensed clinical psychologist with extensive experience treating stress-related problems in high achieving people. She is an academic and professional powerhouse with master’s degrees in psychology and theology, formal training as a yoga teaching, and a Ph.D. in clinical psychology. For more biographical information, please checkout: https://zenfounder.com/about/.

    In particular, we dive pretty deep on:

    • How to Prioritize Your Life
      • Great start – you found something that you love to do as far as work!
      • Have a variety of things going on in your life.
      • Have backup strategies in play.
      • “Make it big plan” is a low frequency event.
    • Are there areas where freelancers chronically under invest in?
      • Sleep
      • Diet
      • Exercise
        • It’s easy to neglect your body.
      • Time with friends
        • Connecting you with human beings.
        • Connections with online friends are great, but real-life friendships are better for mental health because we connect better with three-dimensional people.
    • If you make the investments into yourself (sleeping, eating well, exercising) this will better your business.
      • This notion of should or shouldn’t do X, Y, Z.
      • Paul Jarris’ newsletter: Defining What Enough Is For You?
      • Budgeting together as a family.
        • Gives you a clear sense of what “enough” is for you and your family.
      • Examples:
        • Elon Musk
          • Works 24/7 and is CEO of many companies.
          • Admired by many, but lifestyle seems toxic to some.
          • Wisdom is knowing your own personal limits.
        • Silicon Valley, CA
        • Patrick Collison
          • Humble person
          • Dr. Walling was very impressed on how aware he is as a person.
          • He recognizes that the right events were in-place and he put in the work, too.
      • Burnout – different stages and things we can do to address burnout
        • Burnout is a syndrome where people feel detached from their work. They feel like their input does not equal their output.
        • It’s subjective.
        • It’s caused by too much work, feeling out-of-control in your work, a mismatch of daily tasks versus what needs to be done, not enough support, and working with clients who are emotionally draining, etc.
        • Scientifically we can view a brain that is burned-out.
        • Other health problems can arise due to stress.
        • We know how to prevent it and how people can recover.
        • It could take a few weeks in order to regain a healthy lifestyle to recover from burnout.
        • Road to recovery
        • 30% of adults experience burnout in some point in their life.
        • Dr. Christina Maslach
          • Her research is focused on burnout.
        • Time is finite and life is finite.
          • You will choose things that are more gratifying for you and your life.
        • Sometimes we forget the “love” piece.
          • I choose to do the activities that really bring me joy.
          • This will help with the longevity of your business.
          • Not things that you feel like you “should.”
          • Listen to the emotional quality to your work to help prevent potential burnout.
        • Hobbies
          • If you have some hobbies like yoga, fishing, painting, baking, knitting etc. it can definitely help prevent burnout.
          • Hobbies are good for a sense of accomplishment.
            • Mastery and it feeds your soul.
      • Protecting Personal Relationships
        • Rhythms and structures in our relationships.
          • Regularity of date night once a week (for example) helps establishing this routine.
          • The same is true for friendships.
        • Find a good mentor.
          • Grow together and it’s great for psychological support.
        • Fitness goals
          • If you don’t use it, you will loose it.
          • This gets more important the older you get.




    Jonathan Stark

    Jeremy Green

    Philip Morgan – Positioning Manual

    Rueven Lerner

    Dr. Sherry Walling