Eric Davis (twitter github blog) Evan Light (twitter github blog) Jim Gay (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeScript)
01:58 – Brownfield Projects
Contrast to Greenfield Legacy Code
06:50 – Labeling and defining a Brownfield Project
08:37 – How to handle Brownfield Projects
The First Step of Refactoring a Rails Application
15:48 – Rescue Project versus Brownfield Project
State of the Client versus State of the Project
20:02 – Technical Problems Business Leadership Problems
Working Effectively with Legacy Code: Michael Feathers
26:56 – Refactoring and Testing
Show, Don’t Tell (Leading by example) Redesigning Agile: Part II - Introducing Intridea Forge
31:46 – Educating team members
Correcting mistakes Learn how others work Lead by example
36:57 – Pushback
Trying new angles Leave the project Lower standards
Rails Commit (Eric) Practical KnockoutJS (Eric) The Delighted Developer (Evan) Dead Man’s Snitch (Jim) TweetBot (Chuck) Therapeutic Refactoring: Katrina Owen (Chuck) 069 Ruby Rogues: Therapeutic Refactoring with Katrina Owen (Chuck)
JIM: Brownfield's project, I’m just thinking, reminds me of this joke I heard where there's like a cabin boy on a pirate ship and the captain is always telling, when they are going in to battle, captain turns and say, “Arrr! Get me my red shirt!” And so, you know, they’d go to a battle and every time they go, “Arrr! Get me my red shirt!”
And so, finally, the cabin boy goes to the captain and captain says, “Sir, why are you always telling to ‘get me a red shirt’?” “Well, I don’t want the men to see me bleed if I get stabbed.”
And so, the next time they were travelling through the entire like Spanish Armada comes out and just completely surrounds them. And the captain turns to the cabin boy and says, “Arrr! Get me my brown pants!”
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CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to episode 34 of the Ruby Freelancers Show. This week on our panel, we have Eric Davis.
CHUCK: We have Evan light.
EVAN: Today, I have whiskey.
CHUCK: And we also have Jim Gay.
JIM: I am ready to go.
CHUCK: I'm Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and this week, we are going to be talking about Brownfield Projects. And who says it’s such–
EVAN: It doesn’t sound very pleasant, right?
CHUCK: [laughs] Yeah. There was some discussion before the show about that.
JIM: That term is terrible. I mean–
EVAN: It’s poopy.
CHUCK: Oh geez. [laughs] Somebody has to say it, right?
JIM: Actually before we start talking, I started searching like is there a Wikipedia entry for brownfield? Like, who came up with the term “brownfield”?
EVAN: Well, we can get it in the Urban Dictionary pretty fast.
CHUCK: Oh geez. [laughs] I usually hear it as a contrast to “greenfield” is what I hear.
JIM: Yeah, I’d certainly understand that. I always like I mentioned before,