Eric Davis (twitter github blog)
Jim Gay (twitter github blog)
Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up)

03:45 – Long-Term Contracts

07:14 – Marketing while under contract

10:01 – Working on other projects while working full-time

16:10 – Energy

17:01 – Money

Emergency funds

21:41 – Lone developer vs team projects

28:05 – Full-time contract pros and cons


40:50 – Finding full-time contracts

ruby-orgs (Jim)
dtao / safe_yaml (Jim)
Freebook Sifter (Eric)
Discomfort Zone: How to Master the Universe (Eric)
Doctor Who Sonic Screwdriver of the 10th Doctor (Chuck)
Contactually (Chuck)
Dropbox App (Chuck)

Next Week
Outsourcing and Odesk with Jonathan Shank
CHUCK: I'll get ideas from my ideas. There's an idea. 

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CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 47 of the Ruby Freelancers Show! This week on our panel, we have Eric Davis.

ERIC: Hello!

CHUCK: We also have Jim Gay.

JIM: Hello from Arlington, Virginia's greatest suburb, Washington, DC!

CHUCK: Awesome! I'm Charles Max Wood from And real quick, I want to mention this to a few people. I get request from people who listen to all of the shows that I do, so some of you will be interested, some of you won't. That's fine. If you're not interested, I apologize. You can't help by getting the word out, but I'm going to be teaching a Ruby on Rails course starting in March. And I'd love to get people to sign up, if they want to learn Ruby on Rails. I think the approach that I'm taking is a little bit different from what a lot of other people do, and that it's a course over 8 weeks. I encourage you to build an application and then we get it deployed to a server or to Heroku or both and just help you figure it out, help you find what road blocks you're going to run into as you build whatever application it is and kind of get you all the way through the process in 8 weeks. I don't think you can get that from a book, from videos, or from a 2 or 3 day in-person course class. So if you're interested, go to and sign up! And I just appreciate you listening. If you're not interested, then I would appreciate it if you just tweet that out and let people know that it's available.

ERIC: Awesome! Yeah I think that would be great. Like I know a lot of people who come to local meet-up groups and say "Oh, I'm trying to learn" and they spend some time hacking away from reading tutorials and cobbling stuffs together from the internet. But a long course like that could really help people kind of get over the hump and understand.

CHUCK: Yeah that's what I found. I've had a few people actually come to me and say "I read this book, (or) I took this class, and now I'm trying to build my app, and I'm running into these issues." And so that's what this is kind of designed to work around.

ERIC: Cool!

CHUCK: Alright! Well let's get into today's topic. We're going to be talking about full-time clients or full-time projects, I guess. Either way.

JIM: Neither projects where you're what?